If You Love Chuck, You Will Love Chuckaholics.

As I watch all these discussions taking place on the various articles this site has to offer, It dawned on me that I should take the time to make a calling for more people to join our special site.

This article is more for passionate Chuck fans that have a deep passion for the show and want to share that passion by writing or help build a foundation for what this site is trying to establish. I love the people that have contributed in commenting or writing articles. I appreciate The Intersect Project because its the very passion of these people that make renewing this site’s domain in January a whole lot easier.

I have begun to research how to create fan videos so I can create this sites first video for viewing. It will take some time, but once it is finish I will share it with you all.

So, the reason for this article is to once again invite people that have the same passion as Paul, Gary, JD, Sarah, Clara, Lynor and all those that have commented on this site.

So,  Join us I promise you won’t be disappointed. We are not a fan base here. We are a family of Chuck fans that have different views on things, but have a common love of Chuck.

If you don’t want to write articles that is fine. Not everyone has the time to do such a thing. The reason i am able to is because I take care of a one year old, which during nap time I write for you guys.

There is still so much to talk about and as time goes by I would love it if we had more authors, contributors and even an editor to correct our grammar mistakes. i would love it if someone can help us create a Chuckaholics Logo so we can have something people would love to look at.

I am working hard for one purpose, and that is to deliver a site that people visit and leave saying that was an Awesome site. JD and I have ideas in enhancing the viewing experience and while those ideas come true, we will continue to do what we do.

Write articles, add music and provide entertainment for the purpose of just that. We have no intention of breaking copyright laws or looking to sell this site. We are more about creating an Ultimate Chuck experience,

Maybe someday we will get an announcement that will feel like Christmas morning for Chuck fans, and you know what we are talking about, but if not then we can remember the friendships we are building here. A fan site is fun and all when we talk about similar interest, but the more people follow us the more we grow.

Zachary Levi and the rest of the cast gave us a great show to remember, and I am going to keep that memory alive. So visit the site. Play with what we have to offer and join us for discussions like these.

  1. Too bad we can’t get all of the comments from last night loaded on here.

    So….. After reading your post I offer this based on last night’s tweets. The Prague issue and issues afterward lead us to Shaw. Prague was a major setback for Sarah. She lost someone she cared deeply for and thought he cared for her She lost her best last chance at having a normal life; a life she has longed for.

    After Prague, we now see Chuck has become a grungy, withdrawn, Buy More cheese ball eating fiend after flunking out of spy school and losing the best thing that had ever happened to him. Ellie and Awesome tell chuck to call Sarah. When he does she does not answer but upon seeing who was calling tosses her phone into the swimming pool. The look she gave as she turned to walk away was that of loss and pain; deep hurt.

    Later, we find Chuck has caught up with Casey in Castle. As Casey is speaking with Sarah on the phone Chuck is trying to get any info he can. Casey is not cooperating. After he hangs up with Sarah, Casey does ask Chuck, “What happened between you and Walker?” Chuck replies, “Something I’ve got to fix.” Chuck still cares. He knows he screwed up big time.

    We now see that Chuck has weaseled himself into Casey and Sarah’s mission to which he was not invited. Sarah, upon seeing Chuck for the first time since Prague, approaches Chuck and in a low key taken back kind of way asks, “What are you doing here Chuck?” As Chuck is explaining that he is just there to help Sarah suddenly tells him to kiss her. He is confused. She repeats herself, “Kiss me.” Chuck lays a big romantic kiss on her and she promptly slaps him knocking him to the floor. She tells the goon that she is meeting, “The ex. He has problems letting go.”

    Moments later we find the team in the kitchen. As Chuck pleads his case with Sarah she cannot make eye contact with him. She tells Casey to get him out of here. There is no doubt that she is still hurting.

    The point that I am trying to make here is she did not deserve to be treated the way Chuck treated her. He left her devastated standing on a train platform. All of her weeks of planning and dreams gone in an instant. Chuck basically tears Sarah’s heart out and stomps it on the train platform. I do not believe that was his intention but that is what happened.

    This is what left her vulnerable and susceptible to the charms on one Daniel Shaw. She was heart broken and wanted something she had only had a taste of. Shaw was OK and a straight forward guy. He was only human and she was hurting and very attractive. What guy wouldn’t take that opportunity? Shaw turned once he saw Sarah’s red test. Again, only human and who wouldn’t want a little revenge on your wife’s killer?

    As far as the Tiffany Earrings go, and oversight? A gaff? Writer error? A WTF is she thinking moment. They were Tiffany Earrings. Maybe Sarah just appreciated really expensive jewelry. Is does seem a little bizarre that she would be wearing them especially after the guy that gave them to her tried to kill her. She did take them off after Casey called her in them. I am still thinking rebound romance with Shaw. She was trying to get back what she had or wanted to have with Chuck.

    That brings me to my next inane question. If Shaw was dead why did he still have a well maintained very expensive apartment? Who the hell was paying the rent and utilities? In the real world it would have already been cleaned out and rented to someone else.

    1. What Sarah was offering Chuck in Prague was an illusion… and leaving being a spy was exactly the opposite of what she encouraged him to do in The Ring. Running away was untenable, especially given Chuck’s all important relationship with Ellie and Morgan ( and even his father ). Sarah knew this, but somehow forgot ? Did she also forget what both the CIA and the Ring could be capable of in trying to find them….given that they both knew of Chuck’s family !! Imagine the danger to everyone in Chuck’s family if he disappeared.
      Plus, Chuck had tried for how many episodes to make it right, only to be constantly shut down by Sarah !! She always brought these heart breaks on herself … Chuck was ALWAYS the one to either let her know how he felt, or try to let her know. She certainly seemed more intent on making Chuck jump through hoops than she ever did with Shaw.

      1. You are right and about the family and the danger and the CIA and the Ring trying to track them down. Maybe she was acting on impulse. From your prospective it doesn’t appear neither of them thought it through. In Prague, did Chuck mention anything about family or was it he just wanted to be a spy?

      2. Gary,

        its not an illusion it would of worked for a few weeks and they would of went back. Like in Honeymooners. As I said to JD the real problem with Prague and the main problem overall they didn’t communicate their feelings. They danced around it but never said what they did in American Hero and The Other Guy.

        Its funny how Prague was a disaster by the writers, what is more appalling is twisting I can’t to being with another woman. Its a slap in the face to Sarah who was READY to commit to Chuck. She chose him over Bryce on the beach. She chose him over the agency in the colonel. She went looking for his dad and stay with him when he did meet his father.

        see that scene is so important when Chuck finds his dad. because in Chuck vs The Marlin she didn’t go in with him when he asked her after Ellie said yes to devon. I find it very rewarding to Watch Sarah right by his side. we are def. post day 564 btw.

        Sarah also throughout the first two years together made a lot of moves that indirectly or directly showed her desire to be with him. She rejected not him, but trying to prevent a bunkering or termination which did happen.

        Chuck on the other hand used his jealousy of Bryce and his nerdiness as a ploy in pursuing Sarah like he did Jill and Lou. Hannah was so bad that I hate that more than Shaw and Sarah.

        but hey you know I am a Sarah Sympathizer so I am biased by nature. I just see Prague more as the main problem for Charah lack of communication. Once Sarah said in Tic Tac about her concerns of him changing to Chuck being the first to say I love you Sarah…Always have did My Chuck surface. But wait she already did say my Chuck. When she told Longshore he’s My Guy.

        Once they communicated they got together damned the agency, bryce shaw and anyone else.

    2. I like your take on the issue about Ellie and Morgan, but I won’t touch that because Ellie is my least favorite character, in fact I wish she would of been sent to Africa to stay. Nothing against Sarah Lancaster she was great, but the character its self makes me slam my hand on the table saying “Oh Shut up, Ellie. Chuck doesn’t have to tell you everything.”

      When Orion took out the intersect, if you noticed behind them an explosion. it was designed to destroy the Fulcrum base, but what it did was foreshadow on things to come.

      Whatever side you choose to side with after Prague is not the issue here. The issue is and will always be the case is communication.

      Sarah should of told him from the start she didn’t want him to be spy that she felling in love with the regular guy. She has the tendency to engage in impulsive acts that would trickle all the way to Hard Salami with their first kiss.

      Again Sarah wants to run, but run from what Renaldo said it best in Honeymooners. You can run but eventually you will be running from yourself.

      Prague was just one major disaster for everyone. Chuck;s emotions were compromised because he know he did wrong and Sarah went into a downward spiral.

      So Orion takes out the intersect gives Sarah a shot at being with Chuck the normal Chuck, but Bryce wants Chuck to work on the intersect project as an analyst Sarah looked somewhat excited until Chuck said no.

      Grant it looked like she was liking he would be spy, but she was excited for him just being an analyst.

      There is a disconnect when Chuck elected to go on a vacation with Sarah rather then say I love you Sarah stay with me. but all he saw was Bryce and he tail spinned back to nerd Chuck.

      See I hate the intersect for one thing it made Chuck become overly dependant on it. Most of the missioned he solved by using his smarts not the intersect. He didn’t need it. My issue in Prague is this

      I am fine with Chuck saying he can’t because he wanted to be a spy he wanted to join Sarah’s word. What I am not fine with is in three episodes he meets Hannah on an airplane and hooks up with her soon after.

      So all that work to prague to say Sarah was not ready no one paid attention to the beach wedding when she told Bryce she was not coming with him. and right before Orion interupted them Sarah was ready to say she wanted to stay with Chuck.

      Its easy for people to say Sarah never said anything about her feelings she did but through actions. She ran with him to find his father, wanted one bed instead of two.

      1. Being an analyst ( whatever that actually is) didn’t interest Chuck at all …especially when Sarah told him she was leaving with Bryce. (and what exactly is Chuck supposed to think when Sarah springs that on him ?) How is he supposed to compete with Bryce the spy, when he is a lowly analyst ? When Chuck and Sarah are dancing, he tells her that her and Bryce are the ones who should be out there saving the world ( i.e., being spies ) and he’s just not that guy (i.e., a spy). That’s when Sarah tells him, “How many times do you have to be a hero to realize that you ARE that guy”. They are talking about the spy life, NOT about being an analyst. Sarah had told him he could be anything he wanted, she told him she has seen him in action … these all pertained to being a spy. The ONLY reason I can think of for changing Sarah’s words from the “Ring” to “Pink Slip” is that she then started to worry that he might change. That was never clarified until later, but by then it was too late… Sarah’s character had changed from the first 2 seasons, and with it, her credibility. This seems to have been the “jump the shark” moment in the series…and the viewership suffered.
        First Class was an interesting show. We have Sarah starting to show a lot of concern for Chuck being on a solo mission, but Shaw twisted it in Chuck’s mind so he thought Sarah and Casey were “holding him back”. Whether Shaw did it inadvertently or on purpose, he was driving a wedge between Chuck and Sarah. He had to have known of Chuck and Sarah’s previous relationship … he would have been privy to all the documents and reports from Casey as well as the 49B. So it’s hard to say if he was being devious in pursuing Sarah, or it was a byproduct of her & Chuck missing the signals once again. GB put Sarah with Chuck to control his emotions ( as best possible), because he listened to her. Shaw tried to push Chuck forward…to be a spy in spite of the Intersect…and his emotions. But that also meant that Shaw had to separate Sarah from Chuck…so he actually could “grow”. Chuck misinterpreted the separation as Sarah moving on, so when Hanna pursued Chuck ( once again, for being just who he was), I think he felt he may as well try to move on too. He realized fairly quickly that he couldn’t move on, so he ended it with Hanna quickly…it really was a fling. Sarah and Shaw were much deeper…when it gets to the point that Sarah was willing to share secrets she would never share with anyone else, you know it was serious. The problem is that it would have worked better as a fling as well… there was really no reason for Sarah to ever really “care” about Shaw.

      2. It would have been a couple of weeks of fun and getting to know each other. That is until reality come crashing back in on them. Like you said they would have been hunted down by the CIA, NSA, and a whole alphabet full of other government agencies.

        I believe most of us would agree that while the show was originally airing no one watching gave any thought to the ramifications we’re discussing here. Everyone was living for the moment; Chuck and Sarah finally going to be together. it could have been poor writing. But on the other hand it could have been brilliant writing. It left the viewer to wonder what exactly was going to Sarah’s mind. Has she had enough of the spy life? Did she really have a master plan that would deceive everyone that came looking for them?

        Since we have the luxury of hindsight and foresight here, Monday morning quarterback if you wanna call it that, in Cliffhanger Casey gave Chuck a set of fool proof IDs. That would allow him and Sarah to totally drop off the grid. Chuck ultimately gave these to Volkoff/Winterbottom and Vivian. Is it possible Sarah had the same type of IDs in Prague?

    3. My First Question is, How do we know that Shaw was tuned by the Ring before he was shown Sarah’s Red Test? with Everything that has happened in the show, and the more times I watch it. I think that Shaw might have been part of the ring way before the video was seen. take for example to CIA agent the “Captured” Chuck’s Sister.

      to answer you last question, I think the Ring was maintaining Shaw’s apartment because they were the one who know what he was up to in Paris and they were watching him, thinking that he would actually kill Sarah and that would totally destroy Chuck if that happened, which would end the intersect, which is what the ring wanted. I think Shaw was so Suave which helped Sarah drop the guard that she had put up around her heart after Chuck hurt her in Prague. Lets say that before Shaw joined team Chuck he was already part of the ring, he would have been watching the team like the spy that he was. He would know what made the team tick and the dynamic of the team. This would help him gain their trust and let him in, this would help Shaw and the ring destroy the team and the intersect from the inside .Which was the rings goal the whole time.

      1. Let’s back that up a couple of steps further because that adds some fuel to the fire. How did we first meet Shaw? Wasn’t it a Ring agent that wanted Awesome, thinking he was Carmichael, to kill Shaw? Was that part of the plot to pull them in and make them start trusting Shaw no questions asked? I like your line of thinking on this.

      2. totally forgot that we met Shaw before he came into castle. and that Awesome was supposed to pose as Carmichael and kill Shaw.
        But I cant remember how we actually met Shaw.

      3. Chuck and Awesome work their way to the upper floor or what they discover to be a CIA building, per the Ring agent’s instructions via the exploding ear piece that Awesome is wearing. They were instructed to kill the man in the office. The man was Shaw.

        There was a previous episode where we see Beckman addressing Shaw, but we never get to see his face during that exchange.

        Based on your theory I’m now thinking Shaw shooting himself and playing dead was part of a Ring plot. How did Shaw know to have a a pill that makes you appear dead and a med kit with the antidote as well as stuff for the gunshot? And how did he know to leave the note that said “Save me”?

        And Shaw had done his research he would have known of Chuck’s fear of needles, but who better to just have hanging around to tend to counteracting the play dead pill and the self inflicted gunshot wound than one Dr Devon Woodcomb?

        That has me thinking that the Ring knew exactly who they had kidnapped.

      4. I don’t know if I agree…he seemed pretty shook up when he found out Sarah killed Eve. He was just the resident expert on the Ring, having studied them for 5 years. I think that’s why the wanted “Carmichael” to kill him as part of his test.

      5. But what a good cover for a double agent. he could have stayed off the CIA’s Radar as being an “expert” on the Ring, by being a double agent and being in the ring.
        Even if he was in the ring that doesn’t mean he had seen the Red Test where Sarah killed his wife.

      6. Shaw really did care for Sarah before the red test. he saved her from gas while Chuck went to go get the antidote he also went into shock when he thought Sarah was killed by assassin in fake name. The one thing that puzzles me about the writers is Sam

        how in a short time frame did she tell Shaw her name was Sam, but when Chuck asked her in Wookie, she was stand offish. SMH terrible writing

      7. Shaw certainly knew a lot of things before he came to Castle. He knew Sarah had disappeared in Prague. He knew she and Chuck were an item..( “We both fell in love with spies .”) But I think it all was just because he and Eve had been tracking the Ring and knew all their moves. Unfortunately, The Ring knew about them too. In Fake Name and Awesome, Shaw was the target …so I don’t think he was with them. And as Chris said, he seemed really shook up when Sarah went down in Fake Name. and when he found out Eve was Sarah’s red test. Honestly…he had plenty of opportunity to kill Sarah before he found out about the Red Test, so I think that was the point he turned.

      8. How does that explain the fake dead pill, med kit, antidote, Shaw trying to convince Chuck to shot him with pin point accuracy only to have to do it himself, and finally the “Save me” note. Looks to me like he knew or more specifically was actually in on the plan. I think it got the team comfortable with him so he could gain info from them.

        He had no desire to do them harm at this point. Since losing Eve you can only surmise he has heartbroken and alone just as Sarah was after Prague. She was lonely and desiring attention, he was lonely and desiring attention. It was a boy girl thing. Fortunately Sarah and Shaw did not go all the way like Chuck and Hannah. As a side note, I think Chuck really did Hannah wrong.

        In Fake Name when Sarah went down there was no doubt Shaw was concerned. Was it because he may have lost someone he was developing feelings for or because part of the info source may be gone?

        No doubts also that seeing Sarah’s red test pushed Shaw into revenge mode.

      9. I think he somehow had access to the info of the Ring…surveillance of some sort, so he knew of the plot … he was prepared.
        He may have been lonely, but it had been 5 years since Eve had been killed, so it certainly wasn’t as fresh as Sarah’s “needs”.

        BTW…they did “go all the way” …. Casey was having a lot of fun with Chuck in “The Living Dead” rubbing it in that Sarah and Shaw had all these intimate moments ( couples massage, dinner on the waterfront, shopping at Tiffany’s ) and when Sarah mentioned Shaw’s apartment, Casey said it wouldn’t be the first time she’s been there !!! Then there was the Kama Sutra book Chuck found there !! It’s odd they had to go through that painful exercise to try to find out what was going on with Shaw .. why didn’t Sarah just say, “Have you checked out his apartment?” She already knew where it was, so why did she need Chuck to flash on it ?

      10. I guess what I should have said was we know Chuck and Hannah went all the way as witnessed in that awkward moment with Ellie. I imagine it was implied Sarah and Shaw may have also; although it is just implied as there is no specific evidence that points that way. Plenty of circumstances stuff like you pointed out.

        Perhaps by not mentioning Shaw’s apartment Sarah is trying to save face or some last shred of dignity. After all as soon as Casey has any ammo he just tells it like it is. She could be trying not to cause any additional friction between her and Chuck. Girlfriend mode or trying to be girlfriend mode and not agent mode?

      11. JD,

        We don’t need to see the evidence of Sarah and Shaw sleeping together, but logical speaking I wouldn’t put it past her. Even Orion who hadn’t been around could tell Shaw and Sarah were lovers. However, what purpose would of came for Sarah to tell her boyfriend that she slept with Shaw and wore his earings. what good could of came from it.

      12. Chuck would of had to known or at least had an idea. I can see Sarah not wanting to hurt Chuck anymore thus her silence or not being forthcoming with info. Casey on the other hand enjoyed each and every opportunity to poke at Chuck and/or Sarah every chance he could. The going over events Sarah had been involved with Shaw in gave Casey more than enough ammo to fire away; he appeared to really enjoy trying to embarrass Sarah in front of Chuck.

        I know nothing about really expensive jewelry. I do know Sarah had expensive tastes. Just look at the car she drove. I believe Chuck noted the “Weinerlicious paid really well.” Tiffany Earrings are expensive. I really think that is why she was still wearing them. Maybe it was an I got the earrings and you are supposed to be dead and don’t have me kinda thing. She’s a woman for cripe sake. Who knows what she was thinking. Maybe Sarah G. or another female reading this can tell us why she still had the earrings.

      13. I agree with you Gary on this one. As I think about it, it seemed far fetched to believe that as good a spy Shaw was not finding out who pulled the trigger in 5 years seems to be bad practise plus Shaw didn’t work on the intersect project until he came to burbank

      14. Where did the Ring get video of Sarah’s red test? Who actually ordered Eve be the target in Sarah’s red test? How did Shaw know to be overly prepared and have a save me note ready for Chuck. I’ll have to rewatch again but when Chuck first met Shaw in the office, did Shaw call Chuck by name? I still smell a rat.

      15. She never denied anything that Casey said about her and Shaw, and looked quite perturbed that Casey would bring that stuff up.

        The reason we know exactly what Chuck does, but not Sarah, is because the story is about Chuck. What he does ( like having a fling) is important to the story. What the supporting cast does of a personal nature is not part of the story UNLESS it affects Chuck. I know this perturbs Chris, who sees everything as though perched on Sarah / Yvonne’s halo 😉 but whether Sarah slept with Shaw or not is not important to Chuck’s story… the fact that she is “with” him affects him, not what she does when she’s “with” him. It is not farfetched to think that 2 attractive 30-ish single people, who engage in couple’s massages, shop for Tiffany earrings and stay together in his apartment are not having sex !! LOL

        As for Chuck and Hanna, remember that Sarah had let Chuck know loud and clear that they wouldn’t be getting back together. Every time Sarah showed the signs of “caring” for Chuck again, Shaw made it out to be that she was being over-protective and not letting him grow. So if someone as attractive as Hanna, who has a very similar interest in computers, comes along, then why wouldn’t you take a shot? We know from Sarah’s expressions that it hurts her, but she doesn’t really give Chuck any choice but to move on with his life. So Chuck tries to …. but he realizes that as attracted as he is to Hanna, it doesn’t feel right. It was unfortunate that he only realized it after he slept with her, but I think sex is ( usually) the deepest form of intimacy between 2 relatively new individuals, and perhaps Chuck was thinking this would verify that she was maybe the one to help him get over Sarah. The spark wasn’t there, though. He comes off as a pretty bad guy for breaking up with her, but since he didn’t have any prospect of getting back with Sarah, and there was no one else waiting in the wings, he could have milked the sexual relationship for a lot longer. To his credit, he took his lumps and did the right thing ( as usual).

      16. Gary,

        I never claim that Sarah is innocent. I have mentioned many times that I didn’t like what she did with Bryce in nemesis. nor did I like how she handled the Suburban situation. i find it to be very mean for Sarah to show up at a sleep over where she is wearing sexy lingerie to then turn it around and say its a cover.

        i didn’t like her reaction in Subway when she saw Shaw was a live, but your right Shaw was single and so was Sarah. Where does it say that Sarah can’t have a relationship of her own. i find it foolish to think as good looking as Sarah was and the personality she had not to make a man fall for her.

        Shaw seemed to affect her until he killed Orion and his performance at the CIA facility, when she clocked him

      17. there was another casey line in Subway that was awesome. Casey: I don’t know when it happened but our boy became a man…He is thinking like a real spy. You picked a good one Walker, Finally

      18. I think at the time of all this material coming out about Sarah and Shaw falls into the realm of Sarah and Bryce. While Chuck gets jealousy with each thing Casey said. He should be reminded that Sarah was sitting next to him. Again, Sarah chose Chuck. No matter if Shaw slept with Sarah has no baring here.The last time i check they weren’t together so if Sarah slept with Shaw, it seemed like Sarah didn’t do anything wrong. Much like Chuck sleeping with Hannah.

        To Sarah’s credit she did take them off after Casey pointed it out. Most women would still wear Tiffany’s jewelry despite who they are with.

        If the viewer expected Chuck and Sarah to get back together just like that after what happened in Prague, it would be even worse story telling. Time heals all wounds but if the time constantly gets poked with a stick how can it heal. With each jerky move Chuck made Sarah was witnessing her Chuck disappear. Not until Sarah pointed out in Tic Tac did things start to reverse. Sarah spoke up, she said

        Sarah Walker: Look, I know that you want to be the perfect spy. And I know what you sacrificed to get there. But *please* don’t lose that guy I met three years ago. Don’t give up on the things that make you great.
        [Sarah offers Chuck a weapon. Chuck pushes the gun back to Sarah]
        Chuck Bartowski: I’ll always be that guy.

        Than Chuck speaks his mind in the Final exam,

        Sarah Walker: The final part of your mission is to kill him.
        Chuck Bartowski: Are you being serious right now? Are you kidding me? Kill him here? Now? I can’t do that!
        Sarah Walker: Then you won’t become a spy.
        Chuck Bartowski: But then… we couldn’t…
        Sarah Walker: No. Probably not.
        Chuck Bartowski: Sarah, when all this started, I didn’t think I had a chance of ever becoming a real spy. But if – if I can’t do this then – then -then what’ll I be?
        Sarah Walker: Then you’ll be Chuck, and there’s nothing wrong with that… That’s all I can say. I’m sorry. The rest is your decision.

        Sarah for the first time said how normal Chuck was great. meanwhile Chuck talked about how he wouldn’t be hear if it wasn’t for her. Its slow but they are talking

        than American Hero

        Chuck Bartowski: Look, I don’t want to pester you Sarah. Or become some – some nuisance you can’t avoid. I’ve seen Morgan go that route far too many times to count. And since I’ve already given the fancy eloquent version of this speech before, I’m going to be blunt and honest: I love you… One more time because it feels really nice to say, I love you. I feel like I’ve been bottling this up forever. I love you.

        And then we know what happen in Other Guy

        Chuck Bartowski: But earlier on in my… drunken haze… I realzed I hadn’t asked you a really important question. I’d like to ask you now if that’s okay. Just once for the record… Sarah, do you love me?
        [Long pause]
        Chuck Bartowski: Wow. I’m, uh, in my underwear. I’m sitting in my underwear holding a plastic guitar. There’s a very good chance I’m making a complete fool of myself, isn’t there?
        Sarah Walker: Yes.
        Chuck Bartowski: I should probably put some pants on.
        Sarah Walker: No, Chuck… Yes.
        Chuck Bartowski: What?… uh, What?
        Sarah Walker: Chuck, I fell for you a long *long* time ago. After you fixed my phone, and before you started diffusing bombs with viruses. So, yes.
        [Sarah chuckles]
        Sarah Walker: Yes

        so it took time about 9 episodes for them to finally talk about their feelings. never before had they took the time to discuss them like adults. no one to stop them, and they are speaking honestly.

        Sarah started it and finished it but Chuck telling her I love you first washed the nasty taste from Prague for me. He manned up and told her I love you. Now I know Sarah doesn’t say it until three episodes later, but we know she did. Its amazing what communication can do.

      19. Well put. If there is and argument to make I am not seeing it at the moment. I really liked how this show/series flowed. They kept adding elements in just the right amounts to keep things interesting. I think we all agree that we disagree on some of these elements and that is ok. This show, in the romance area, closely emulated real life. It was far better than any reality show.

        What I found appealing was how they made the romance story work while all the other bizarre stuff was taking place around it. It had its ups and downs but everyone one watching was pulling for them to get it together. I would have liked to see a few more episodes of how they developed as a married couple.

        I have to go back to a comment I believe Gary made earlier, these posts are becoming as confusing as Twitter was and kinda hard to keep up with but, referring to Other Guy where Sarah said “Shut up and kiss me,” and Goodbye where she said “Kiss me,” leaving us to wonder. The story wasn’t complete at Other Guy. Getting married they came full circle. The writers needed to find a way to give several episodes of married life and simply fade away. Ending the show on the beach where it all started with Sarah saying “kiss me,” would have been an excellent ending if it were not for the circumstances that put them on the beach that evening.

        Screwing up Sarah’s memory and pitting them again each other in Chuck versus Sarah was….. inexcusable….. pathetic….. pick a word, I can’t put my finger on one perfect word that actually describes exactly what it was. It left me feeling empty, lost, and depressed, among other psychological things. It left too many questions and unresolved issues to end with “Kiss me.”

        I’d really like to see more Chuck fans jump into this discussion and hear how they felt.

      20. Jeez Chris…he told her loved her in The Three Words. And what “jerky acts” are you talking about? Sarah was hurt, and a lot of it was her own fault because she wasn’t clear on what she wanted Chuck to do. He said he did the spy thing for her and because of her, and because he loved her … and that was his truth. Running away was an impulsive move by Sarah …she hadn’t even fully planned it out. Whether Chuck realized that or not, becoming a spy was, in HIS mind, the only real way he could show Sarah he loved her and they could actually be together. ( Remember…this was all borne out in subsequent episodes … especially the Honeymooners where Sarah found out she really DID want to be a spy, as well as being with Chuck).

        As for being just “Chuck”, Sarah may like that, but please remember the potential that Chuck had to do anything he wanted …going back to working at the Buy More may have been good enough for Sarah’s version of Chuck, but it was never Chuck’s destiny. This was a highly intelligent individual who had his life ripped away from him in College, and lost his way. He was the perfect person to have the Intersect …and coming from 2 parents that were spies, why couldn’t his destiny be a spy? As he proved later on, he doesn’t have to kill people to be an effective spy.

        And you keep saying Sarah was being poked….Chuck needs to talk things out, and Sarah constantly shut him out. Yes she was hurt, but not talking about that with Chuck was not going to solve the problem, especially when he told her he loved her.

      21. Gary,

        Blatantly lying to Ellie is not a jerky move? or breaking up with Hannah at the restuarant were Hannah’s parents are sitting a few feet away. This a jerky move again. While i understand what he did to manoosh he was an asset,but Chuck should of remembered how Sarah treated him as an asset.

        Its amazing for a man that was so uptight about lady feelings Casey was the one who brought them back together. “you should put the kid to rest, he deserves that much.” or telling the truth about killing the mole. honestly Charah didn’t get together with out the help of Casey.

        Chuck may have not done the poking himself, but I feel its more about the spy life in general. I think her heart and mind was so done with the spy life that she didn’t even win one solo fight until Tic Tac when she took out 5 guys She got her beautiful dairy air handed to her by Angie Harmon. Allowed an Assassin to put a gun to her head. It seemed the break up didn’t go over so well .

      22. Gary,

        I think your missing my point, There was a lot of problems with Season 3 with the writing, but take that out of the equation for a second. with what we had. Sarah hurt because Chuck chose to better himself. it was selfish of Sarah to expect Chuck to run with her. to expect things to be normal after that is being foolhearty. To be honest there are plenty of women out there that would of left Chuck after that, but Chuck being the intersect there was no chance for Sarah to leave. Not with him flashing again. So, GB put the team back together again. follow by Sarah requesting a transfer she was looking to run now from Chuck and Burbank. ala run from Bryce and Washington. it seems to me that when the fire was starting to get scortching Sarah wanted to run. Sounds like the life of a con man’s daughter. she didn’t hear Chuck say I love much until Carina played the tape for her It mended the fences somewhat, but Sarah is not ready o get back with Chuck because it still hurt. Chuck was still focused on being a spy. So there was no time for a chance to get back together.

        Throw in Shaw and hannah now in the picture we have two lovers headed on that one last fling before ultimately getting back together. i can’t stand Sarah’s reaction to the Red Test. I thought when I saw it that if it was what it took for Chuck to become a spy then its what he had to do. She should of known better. Its why I love Shaw so much he pushed Chuck to be the spy the Intersect 2.0 was supposed to be. however, I agree with you the intersect was best suited for someone like Chuck because of his ability to use morality in his judgment something the CIA doesn’t like, but Sarah enjoy most about Chuck. By watching him tran Manoosh or almost kill the ring agent its not what she knew he was. The change she didn’t like was him losing sight on the things that make him great. he didn’t use a gun but having that choke hold scared her. its why she fled to Washington, but something tells me that when two people are soulmates. they don’t venture far for long.

      23. Lying to Ellie was part of being a spy… Ellie really wasn’t supposed to know. Plus chuck knew it would upset her. Breaking up with Hanna when he realized he still loved Sarah and wasn’t going to be getting over her was really an act of chivalry … like I said, he knew he was wrong to have the affair, and he ended it quickly. There is never a reason to continue seeing someone who isn’t “The One.” Bad timing with the parents ? Yeah, but it would have really been a charade.
        AND…Sarah heard him say “I love you” when she opened the vault door. When Carina gave her the tape, she saw the whole conversation / confession. Since it is Chuck speaking the words, how is it different? He wasn’t making it up !!!

  2. Two points are important…when Chuck told her he wasn’t joining the CIA (Chuck Vs. The Ring) because he’s not that guy, Sarah told him was that guy ! Then 3 weeks later, he is joining the CIA and going to their training facility, and she tells him not to go.( Chuck Vs. The Pink Slip) He even says that he can finally do something important in his life. Certainly a turnaround for Sarah, and for no important reason… probably poor writing. He does mention in Chuck Vs. The Three Words that he did it because of her encouragement and because he loves her…all of which was true.
    The situation in Prague was hampered by them not having any time together. All Chuck told her is that the CIA told him he can make a difference. The other things, about leaving family behind ( for good), the danger it placed Ellie, Devon and Morgan in, is based solely on what went on in previous seasons. Why Sarah never tweaked to the actual consequences of “running away” is beyond me….once again, poor writing. And even the “running away” sounds so innocuous … this would have to have been a “disappear off the face of the earth” scenario ….running away with the Intersect 2.0 wouldn’t leave the CIA, NSA or The Ring in a very charitable mood !
    We do have to remember that the writing was sketchy in Season 3 for the same reason as Season 5 …. short time frame to try to establish a storyline. Neither one worked particularly well

    1. How many of these issues can be attributed to poor writing; or are we overlooking something; or making more out of something than there actually is? Everything can’t be perfect and there will be the occasional continuity error.

      I have to assume that we all watched the show in its entirety and in doing so initially we did without second guessing the writing staff. Netflix and DVD are great. We can now go back and watch as many times as we want. This is when we start picking up the originally unnoticeable gaffs.

      I think everyone will agree that the show was well written to the point that it drew us in; well written with few exceptions. I agree with Gary that the numbers started to fall after Prague. I myself like Pink Slip as it was a powerful episode. I guess much can be said that the constant ups and downs became too much for many viewers.

      Prague, like it or not, had to happen. The premises of Chuck and Sarah being together was the draw. Without that premise there was no show. If Chuck had of left with Sarah, where could the writers have gone with the story line? Again agreeing with Gary, it was not a tenable situation. The Secret and the Agent that had done such good work now branded as turncoats being chased to the ends of the Earth. That wouldn’t work.

      If anything the writers may have played this angle one too many times. In this case it was a pivotal moment in the show. Chuck actually had to fight like hell to win Sarah back. While season 3 was all over the place the one thing it did was provide a great set up for season 4. I really liked season 4.

      Christopher, that should have allowed you a couple more rounds of Jameson. Lol

      1. Sometimes the writers try to be too clever…and they get caught in a trap. I know I stopped watching it on the network after Pink Slip … it really did lose something. I couldn’t put my finger on it, but the fun part seemed to be taken out of it. Seeing Sarah as miserable certainly doesn’t help. It was actually kind of a depressing set of circumstances …and it lasted for 13 weeks until we got to a resolution. Season 4 was very well written and acted, but the viewership never came back … only half of what they got in the first 2 seasons….

      2. Which is the very reason why I prefer this story compared to the final four of the series. We got My Chuck and they became a couple.

        If the series ended there would people complained? with the last scene you saw as Shut up and kiss me or do you still prefer Chuck, Kiss me and being left to wonder?

        but ur right it hurts me seeing Sarah depressed and going with the motions you know she never won a one on one fight in that season. Love and a broken heart would do that, it eats away at you

      3. No one should have that kind of depression. But I think that was the carrot being dangled from the stick for us to all continue chasing. The on again off again romance was defiantly off. We all wanted to see it fixed. And eventually it was. But as Gary mentioned elsewhere, viewership was suffering.

      4. Sad someone couldn’t step in and stop the downward spiral. I really liked watching this play out. Chuck trying to win her back and Yvonne giving Sarah every emotion imaginable.

        I think Yvonne was flawless in her performances while this was going on. That’s why it is disappointing to me that the show was crashing and burning. Regardless of the writing the whole cast continued to put their heart and souls in it.

      5. Actually, JD The Board of Directors cut me off so I have been reading with just the two drinks. a lot of what we talk about here are just opinions the writers wrote the story they way CF and JS wanted. What we saw was their interpretation of the story.

        We may agree or disagree its still one of the best story ever told on television. Prague the final kiss whatever we debate its because the writers did what they wanted.

        We are in essence just talking about our favorite show what I think happened in a particular scene may be seen different from your point of view.

      6. Yes… there’s a little thing that is very prevalent in (one of )my world(s) called confirmation bias. It is something that scientists work very hard at avoiding. It is the tendency to look for things in research that prove your original idea, rather than look at the raw data presented before you. I try to do that on these boards, because I would always be beating the drum for Sarah otherwise. I find Chuck a bit annoying at times … such as in the Beefcake episodes….could he BE anymore of a little girl in those shows ??!!! But I truly believe they changed Sarah in Season 3, and the more I watched it, the more I saw that it seemed to be mostly “her” fault due to that change of heart we got between the 2 seasons. Yes, it ended up with a broken heart…but Chuck DID try to fix it by explaining why he made that decision. I’m still trying to figure out why Sarah would talk that out a bit … I thought they had been trying to communicate a bit more ….

      7. Gary,

        They really haven’t communicated at all even when together. but lets think about it for minute.

        Sarah first admission of feelings was to casey when she said having feelings. she also confirmed it by almost sleeping with the guy. then she told Cole, I don’t cheat on my cover bf. Jack Burton as you pointed out once was the first one to use the words love. having feels doesn’t necessarily mean love. but its something like it. hard to explain.

        The one thing I give a lot of credit to Chuck is his ability to not be afraid to let Sarah know what he is thinking. “Did you really kiss me for me or was my lips the most convenient lips around?”

        or we need to break up, I just can’t do this anymore the more we go around trying to fool people into thinking we are a real couple.

        I like that side of Chuck, I like the one who argue with Sarah that he wanted her to believe in him even when he was wrong those are the Chuck versions I like. What I don’t like is giving the Omen virus to the baddies, Its breaking up with Sarah and expecting her to wait around for ever.

        its complaining when he saw Sarah, who was working wink at Lon

        Sarah lying about Bryce and Mauser was no big deal in my view she thought she was protecting him he lied to her about searching for his mom and orion.

        Communication is funny because what is the degree of communication are we talking about. They kissed three times. spent a night in the suburbs, which Sarah was loving. She liked playing Martha Stewart, They were communicating in that episode.

        When he had the problem in The Tooth, He elected to take on the Africans himself. I find him going on his own to be idiotic at times.

        The only times I agreed with it was to save his dad in The Dream Job, and when he took down Volkoff. both times we got the mature take charge Chuck. not little girl lost his lamb whinner.

      8. While I like to complain about the writing being bad in Season 3, what I really mean is the story arc was bad, and the writers had to take some liberties to make the arc fit. I will admit there were some brilliant small stories fit in, and as usual, some scenes paid homage to great scenes from movies and TV of the past. One brilliant piece of writing from the Prague scene is Sarah coming to Chuck as he approached her at the station, and saying “Here is your new passport, and your name is now Hector Calderone”. Later, in the conversation when she is trying to dissuade Chuck from going to the training facility, she says that nothing is real there, that what they have right here ( as she takes his hand) IS real. That is quite an interesting juxtaposition of phrases !! It goes to show that Sarah’s “normal” is still world’s apart from Chuck’s. After all, she was quite used to always being on the run and changing her name…but that was also the spy life/con artist life that she wanted to change …she always seemed to pine for Chuck’s type of normal. Maybe it was a tip of the hat to Chuck when, in earlier Season 2, he said, “Sarah Walker….you will never be normal.”
        While we are talking about good writing, other great episodes were the Tic Tac and The Beard. Other than the fact that Shaw wasn’t heavily involved in either of these episodes, the human interest part of these shows was really well done. (We also got to see Sarah still fighting for “her Chuck”.) I know Lauren LeFranc was one of the writers for the Tic Tac…also The Honeymooners. She was interviewed towards the end on Season 3 and was asked if they would have changed anything about Season 3 once they got to see it as a whole, and the audience reaction to it. She felt that the Shaw/Sarah story should have been changed, but the idea was to have Chuck prove what he would do for Sarah so they could get back together. She just felt it wasn’t done as well as it could have been.

  3. She didn’t have anything like that … only the fake passports. She also told Chuck that she would figure the rest out later….. not really the best laid plan !!
    The other thing to remember is that Pink Slip aired probably 8 months after The Ring, so much of what Sarah had said to Chuck about ” You ARE that guy”, would have been forgotten…unless you were really paying attention. My point about all of this is that the writers wrote Sarah’s character to be a bit different in S3, obviously to set up Prague and subsequently her “heartbreak” and a change in her character. I have a feeling viewers didn’t like it, because the series started to tank with this storyline….it lost over 20% of its already dwindling viewership as soon as Shaw came into the picture, and it never recovered those viewers. Sarah changing (regardless of whether it was before or after Prague, and for whatever reason) resulted in viewers leaving the show, because it no longer was about their slow burn love affair. Chuck “rejecting” Sarah (which wasn’t really the case…since we know it was a miscommunication about what Sarah really wanted Chuck to do, and why) and her resulting aloofness caused viewers …who would have to wait a week, and some episodes, a month, to hope for some reconciliation, obviously turned off too many viewers….so the breakup in Prague was obviously when the show jumped the shark….people just couldn’t believe they would grow apart after all they had been through.

    1. Gary,

      could it be the kind of normalcy Sarah was use to was running. We covered her past relationships with men in particular her father who was always on the run. The CIA taught her how to run and disappear. thus, what she was doing with Chuck was her normalcy. Would they get far is not the question because they tried to run together in Honeymooners and soon found themselves back in Burbank.

      Running is funny because when they ran in colonel we saw them almost have sex, and the first real intimate moment together. what happened next Casey showed up. In Honeymooners Chuck needed a walker after walker was done with him, and Casey showed up. it only makes you wonder if GB would of sent Casey to find them.

      it is also funny as I think about it. In the pilot Chuck said there is no way I can run right. she said not from us. So the concept of running was pretty much out the window

      1. Finally !!!

        Sarah’s reaction to run was what she had been taught to do. Changing names and passports was common in the spy life. If she wanted Chuck’s “normal” ( and she did), this was not going to be accomplished by running in Prague. Like I said, Shaw knew about the train ticket, and Chuck would have been under even closer surveillance. Call it impulsive, call it stupid, call it whatever you want, but it wasn’t going to work. That’s why I said Chuck actually made the right decision based on what he thought Sarah wanted….before she made this rash decision to run. It doesn’t look like he actually had figured out that running was a bad idea, but becoming a spy seemed to be the best decision he could make for him and Sarah at the time.

      2. Chuck made the correct decision that kept them out of trouble not based on any notion that running would cause them trouble. Yes it was impulsive but the correct decision was made for a different reason. Sarah had a major internal conflict she is having a fight. As you noted her perception and knowledge of normal may not necessarily be normal as we “normal” people see or know it to be.

  4. Gary that was a lot of information I drank two glasses of Jamison before I was finish. just kidding….

    Ok, I know you can’t see Sarah position in the whole matter and that is fine, but I will go over with it again.

    From the time Take off your watch to Prague we have a seen a transformation in Sarah. She is not acting lke an agent. She is acting like an inexperienced woman coping with emotions. She almost had sex with Chuck in Barstow, and once they shared that intimate moment. Sarah was different. Who knows how long she had been wanting to do that in bed with him.

    She defyed the agency at that point. roadblock one crossed. Roadblock two was the return of Bryce we follow that with a no from Sarah to Larkin which if you can see her face can tell you there was no doubt she wanted to stay. again she was ready to let Chuck know her feelings, but Orion told her the ring took Larkin.

    We know what happens. Sarah asked Chuck to meet her at the train station at this point she must of felt she was never going to get her chance to be with Chuck. in that span Gary, when did she reject him other than telling him what her orders was from GB. They ordered her to work on the Intersect Project. Sarah was still working as a spy no? so what choice did she have to tell Chuck that she was leaving. She wasn’t there as his cover girlfriend she wanted to be there.

    you can tell by the way she touched him “you look like a real spy.” its not how or what she said its the body language that went with it Sarah is torn. When Chuck downloaded 2.0 she now was fearing that he would go off on his own missions and what not leaving Burbank, which for two years was also Sarah’s home.

    A woman that put her heart and trust into Chuck, who she thought would never break her heart like Jack Burton, Bryce Larkin or Langston Graham using her as his person gopher.

    Chuck never did that if anything he was there for her through the return of her dad to old pals from school, Chuck was there. Sarah returned the favor by getting him his degree and stood up for him while Ellie was ranking on him

    Sarah also got upset when Chuck went off on his own to find Orion its not how or what she said its. her look afterwards like a girlfriend left in the dark rather then an agent because there is a different response when she is in agent mode.

    so when she sees Chuck at the train station, she is excited maybe for a brief time but she wants to run with him for a little while to have achance at normalcy with him. Something she has been seeking since she met him. The thing is she thought Chuck was willing too.

    except right away she kissed him, and he didn’t kiss back. Sarah has experience in that capacity and knew instantly that was not the kiss she was expecting. Rejecting him, how was she rejecting him when the minute she sees him kissed him.

    What signs was she giving that she was not into it.

    he explains what the CIA wants from him and she is honest with him. Its not as simple as he made it. this what they had was simple it it was real. but he said I can’t

    How does a woman who has had bad experience with men in her life. no experience in having a normal life Chuck countered with wanting to be a spy because he thinks thats what she wants.

    The significance of this is tremendous in grand scheme of things this was just the spark of events that just added more fuel to the fire and why because they never talked about their feelings. everything was always one sided Agent Vs the NErd

    1. I liked the idea of going through episodes. Maybe we should start our own rewatch event. That would allow us and anyone else that wants to join in a chance to freshly go through the dialogue and visual cues. I’m in no way an expert on Chuck as you guys surely watched it from the beginning. I did not. Some of the things being mentioned have me running back and forth on Netflix trying to figure out what I missed. Thoughts?

      I think all the things being noted here, all valid points, would have better prospective going through them episode by episode. We could properly beat each other up over Prague as we go.

    2. I’ll go point by point.
      First…something happened between Sarah telling Chuck he WAS that guy(The Ring) and telling him not to be a spy (Pink Slip). We never found out what it was … but even telling him he looked like a real spy …C’mon…she wanted him to be a spy in “The Ring” !! Why the change in heart ? Perhaps she was worried he would change, but that was never explained. Fearing he’d go off on his own missions, etc…where does that come from ? That was never mentioned in any of the episodes ! She said there was always another mission…that nothing is real in the spy world.

      Normalcy with Chuck ?? C’mon again !!! Listen to the language in that exchange….”Here is your fake passport and your name will be…” This is REAL? This is NORMAL? I’ll figure the rest out later ? This was a poor plan …. but that is the writer’s fault. Chuck was right to reject it for so many reason’s, but mostly because it was actually a no win situation for him. And think of the ramifications for both of them if they really did try to go underground !! Hell…Shaw even knew that she bought the train tickets in Prague and questioned where she went for those few days !! There was no way they could ever escape, so thank God Chuck actually made the right decision !!

      And I said Chuck rejected Sarah at the train station, not she rejected him. (read carefully, Grasshopper !) Afterwards, whenever Chuck tried to explain what happened and why he made the decision he did, Sarah shut him down. She only found out what really happened in the next episode..The Three Words. And even though he actually did everything because of her and for her, she wouldn’t even thaw a bit.

      And you’re right…Chuck thought that Sarah wanted him to be a spy …which is why he did what he did. And Sarah DID want him to be a spy….right up to some weird point in the Pink Slip during a little flashback.

      1. A woman scorned; she can’t be barging with. She can’t be reasoned with. She doesn’t feel pity, remorse, or fear. And she absolutely will not stop, ever, until you’re dead.

        Oh wait…. that’s a Terminator. My bad. But that will still apply. Even though Sarah, Walker not Conner, may have set herself up for this devastating let down, she is still going to feel pain and hurt. So much so that we get to see her become cold and heartless toward Chuck. Did she deserve what happened? I don’t think so. But like I said in another post, something like this had/needed to happen to keep things going.

  5. Hey…interesting fact about Season 3. Pink Slip and the Three Words were aired together on a Sunday night 2 hour premiere in January, 2010. Angel de la Muerte was broadcast the next evening in the original timeslot. Originally, the Season wasn’t supposed to start until after the Olympics on March 1, 2010. That would have been over 10 months after Chuck Vs. The Ring. The original Season 3 was 13 episodes, with an option for 9 more. NBC ordered only 6 more after the first 13 had been set.
    No wonder the writers felt they could make some changes to the characters !!!

    1. That is a long time. Did they think everyone would simply forget what happened and the writers could take greater leeway with what they were writing? That does kind of help explain away some of the drastic changes that you guys have been noting. It still doesn’t make it right.

      What is up with NBC running short seasons? I used to really like NBC. Oddly most of shows I like, with with few exceptions, NBC has axed. By my estimates there should have been at least 104 episode of Chuck; 26 x 4 seasons. They knew in May 2011 they were not going to renew a full 5th season so we got 13 episodes there. That brings a total of 117 episodes. We now have syndication.

      So we had the writers strike shortened 1st season; show never fully developed and attracting viewers and possibly lost viewers. The Olympics shortened 3rd season. And the NBC bail out on the 5th season. Plus the writers new going into the fifth season knew this will be the last season. And that ending was the best they could come up with?

      No show should be allowed to end with open ended issues leaving us all hanging like that. No fan deserves anything like we have here. Season ender, great. Series ender, it blows.

      1. Anyone see Yvonne’s picture at the beach of a pink rainbow? Her comment was “Good things are coming.” It looked eerily similar to “The Beach” …..perhaps some good news is in the offing ???? LOL

      2. Saw it this morning. I Tweeted back that I can’t wait to see what she is into. The beach….. we can only hope. There are several comments that people have posted on her sites and referring to good things coming as; Sarah Walker, more Chuck, a Chuck Movie. Guess we will have to hold our breath and wait.

        Would be nice that the letters and emails I gave been sending to Warner Bros actually did something for the cause.

    2. There was a lot of problems scheduling wise for the show. The constant threat of cancellation and strikes and olympics it was hard for the show to generate a real following because of it. moving from mondays to fridays was a disaster because no one is home on friday nights . Mondays they competed with Monday night Football and Monday night Raw. As well as How I met your mother a lot of competition for the demographics they tried to get into.

      They killed off actors for them to come back to life later, but Orion stayed dead lol. All these through in continuity issues like Casey calling his mother in Santa Claus its just seems like they showed inexperience in what they were doing.

      They didn’t have a theme song until Chuck vs The Tango. They cut the wrong stars like Anna and Harry Tang, but kept Shaw on too long and brought him back in season 5 after claiming he was a part of the conspiracy. Throw in leaving an impactful character like Quinn for the end was terrible for me.

      I love impactful bad guys and like him or not Quinn did a lot of damage.

      I just feel despite all these problems we list we still got an amazing 91 episodes that told a great story. Could we done without with some of the scenes or stories sure, but the fact is we are only talking about a short portion of the story. When we talk about Prague we are talking about a issue that ultimately helped bring them together.

We have similar discussions during the Rewatch, so as I said join the family.





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